Joseph Burkes MD 2021
In this third interview by Engaging the Phenomenon host James Iandoli, I cover encounters clearly demonstrating the consciousness connection during HICE (Human Initiated Contact Events)
I explain why the term “HICE”, in my opinion, is better than the more popular one, “CE-5.”
We discuss the Virtual Experience Model that outlines the role of both visual and auditory illusions during encounters with UAP intelligences.
I describe a dramatic case of sabotage by a flying saucer at the Department of Energy Laboratory that was located close to my contact team’s research site in the high desert of Southern California.
Contact Underground 