J. Burkes MD 2020, edited 2022
Tom Delonge’s To The Stars Academy has done a great deal to facilitate the release of information indicating that UFOs are real and are really important. Nevertheless, I for one have been very critical of the weird warmongering statements that Mr. Delonge made during his interview with Jimmy Church on “Fade to Black “in August of 2016. As far as I know, the collective leadership (both past and present) of To The Stars Academy, drawn from the within the military industrial intelligence complex, has not repeated what I consider are Mr. Delonge’s bizarre and irresponsible comments. Past TTSA representative Luis Elizondo has raised the possibility that UAPs pose a threat to US military operations, but he has suggested that the flybys dangerously close to F-18 Super Hornets were not necessarily proof of hostility. Thus, the danger is being posed as an aviation safety issue.
Elizondo’s statements are a far cry from Delonge’s asinine remarks about using nuclear weapons to “fly-swat some bugs out of the sky.” Delonge is a public figure in what author Grant Cameron has described as the US Executive Branch’s gradual “acclimatization program.” It is unfortunate that the founder of the TTSA in a most chauvinistic and cavalier way openly discussed the possibility of disabling UFOs with the EM Pulse generated by a nuclear detonation above our planet.
During the 1950s, atmospheric testing of such potential instruments of genocide was shown to cause the deposition of radioactive Strontium 90 in the deciduous (baby teeth) of growing children. This threat spurred a worldwide movement led by women. Their protests were eventually successful in pressuring the United States and the former Soviet Union to finally stop atmospheric testing in 1963. As a young doctor four decades ago, I recall reading a medical study published in the New England Journal of Medicine describing an increase in leukemia that occurred in communities downwind from a nuclear test site in Nevada.
Reddit has provided an important service by posting notes on Tom Delonge’s interview with Jimmy Church on “Fade to Black”, August 30th, 2016.
From Reddit
- “Delonge says he has important stuff to say about Starfish Prime, the 1962 nuclear test in space.
- We learned quite a lot from the test; it was the main test where we were able to study and learn about EMP. Actually, when the whole world was focused on the Cuban Missile Crisis, something else was going on. That something else may have brought something down. And that something that brought something down taught us a lot about EMP, and how we could use it to catch things that are hiding.
- He says as soon as we started detonating nuclear bombs, there were UFOs everywhere and every time. And there’s a reason why; it’s because it can actually “eff up those little ankle biters.” And they know it. And even they, as advanced as they are, they can’t get away from it. “Makes you really wonder why we did so many nuclear tests. Why we have so many nuclear weapons. Why we do tests everywhere, in the sky, underground…”
- Delonge says during the entire Cold War, we were working with the Soviet Union. Our relationship together on this issue is what kept the Cold War from going hot. He believes the Soviets were “in the room with us” when Starfish Prime was detonated. Everyone wanted to see us fly-swat some bugs out of the sky.”
- For the entire set of Notes to the Church Delonge interview click on
- https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/905xw3/some_notes_on_tom_delonges_interview_with_jimmy/
The audio of the Church Delonge interview August 2016 is linked below. The part of the show in which Mr. Delonge makes some monstrous statements about nuking ETs can be heard after the second break.
Additional Comments:
I strongly recommend that all reading this material should pick up a copy of Grant Cameron’s “Managing Magic.” An alternative would be to watch and study his Portal to Ascension webinar on this topic. Tom Delonge according to Grant’s analysis is just one more manifestation of a long-standing gradual acclimation program. The famous recording artist indeed had the inside sources that he claimed he possessed as evidenced by the Wiki/Russian intelligence theft and publication of John Podesta’s emails.
Journalist David Haith from the UK made the following helpful comments and has kindly given me permission to share them here.
“After a quick scan of that Church interview I find DeLonge curiously schizophrenic about UFOs.
At one point he says only one alien race are the bad guys….
•He specifies that he’s talking about one specific race of alien, which he and his contacts nicknamed “the bugs.”
But then he talks of the whole phenomenon negatively:
•The UFO phenomenon has a hive mind. These creatures potentially don’t have souls, they’re like clones. They worship their own technology to some degree, but they feed off fear and negativity. The one thing that they cannot stand is the frequency of elevated human consciousness
•Delonge denounces shows like Ancient Aliens, says it’s “alien worshipping” – aliens made us, aliens built everything, aliens are gods… There needs to be a mechanism in place that educates people not to idolize them, because they’re not good.
But then he talks of God and the universal connection of everything…
•”I am 3 trillion percent sure that there is a god. I will stake my life on it.” But it’s not a person. It’s beautiful love consciousness that’s in the center of a galaxy, that explodes out and creates stars and planets. All the beings that are created have a radio signal back to the source
•There is a god, but it’s not a god that looks like Buddha, or has Birkenstocks or whatever. It’s a beautiful energy that connects all of us and it creates stars and galaxies.
•He explains that the UFO phenomenon is intricately connected to that energy.
So according to DeLonge the UFOs are connected to God but at the same time are bugs without souls and feed off negativity.”
For the last three years, complaints have been made that Tom Delonge’s efforts are part of a broader group whose aim is to promote war, and endless military spending on space-based weapons. It has even been labelled preparation for launching a false flag operation simulating an ET attack. I believe such an analysis is in error. Dismissing Misters Delonge, Elizondo, Mellon Semivan Puthoff et al.’s gambit for more openness as a cover to promote conflict is wrong because it doesn’t recognize that The Two The Stars Academy (TTSA) has been extremely successful in opening this entire subject to the general public. They have accomplished this by facilitating the release of the “Tic-Tac” UAP videos by the Navy, extensive news coverage of these releases, and have lobbied Congress to release additional Pentagon information to the public. Instead of attacking TTSA, those interested in flying saucers should grant them limited support. I applaud the efforts of both contact and disclosure activists to dialogue with TTSA leaders, past and present ones.
It is important to take note of Grant Cameron’s insightful analysis describing the historic process of how Executive Branch intelligence operatives have been involved with prominent people in the UFO subculture. Their apparent behind the scenes mission is to work with people like Bill Moore in the 1980s, Dr. Greer starting in the 1990s and now Tom Delonge. According to Grant Cameron, all this has been part of a gradual acclimatization process. It is not the big “D” Disclosure that UFO fans dream of, but neither is it an impenetrable wall of complete denial. As Grant aptly points out, it is something in between those two extremes.
As in the past, my focus has been to promote a discussion concerning how a social movement might be created that links flying saucers to possible solutions for the fundamental challenges our civilization is facing. These are in my view, global warming, endless warfare, racism, sexism and elite classism (the rule of the few). A precondition for such an organizing effort is to have the masses of peace-loving people on our planet become aware that UFOs are real and are important. This cannot happen, in my opinion, unless the government, Congress and the Executive Branch, the corporate controlled media and academia all become more open to releasing information on this subject.
So, what I am proposing is a more complex strategy than dismissing the new policy of openness as a ploy to promote conflict. I think those that want disclosure in a peace affirming way should support the TTSA because it represents those forces within the establishment that are working for more openness. These include Mr. Luis Elizondo, formerly from the DIA, Mr. James Semivan a retired CIA official, and other prominent individuals associated with the defense establishment. At the same time, we should continue to assert that this new policy of more openness should not morph into one promoting conflict with what appears to be in my opinion a likely extraterrestrial presence here on Earth. Granted, this is more nuanced than simply pointing out the absurdities of Tom Delonge’s reckless and confused assertions about ETs. However, it is one that will do the most good I believe in the long run.
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