Joseph Burkes MD interviewed by Dr. Jeffery Mishlove on “New More Thinking Allowed”

On March 31, 2019, Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove interviewed me for his TV series, “New More Thinking Allowed.”
Our conversation allowed me to give a detailed history of how I got involved in contact work as an extension of my peace and social justice activities from the 1960s into the 1980s. I describe the initial efforts of my Los Angeles based fieldwork team as we staged HICE, Human Initiated Contact Events, aka CE-5s.  

I share the stories of many exciting encounters in which UAP intelligences showed me how they employ illusions as mechanisms of contact. From those experiences I now believe that the phenomenon can only be understood by examining the central role of consciousness in the contact drama unfolding worldwide. 

Please take note of the following. At around one hour and six minutes as I am talking about lights that appeared on the ceiling of a fellow contact worker, a tiny orb can be seen moving across my right chest in the left-hand side of the video image.  It can be best viewed on a large screen computer monitor or a TV. One viewer wrote that by slowing the playback speed the small light became more visible. This “visual display” might be a technical artifact or may have a more anomalous explanation. As I like to joke, “Once you join the contact underground you might never be lonely again.”