This is a fascinating conversation from earlier this year. Leslie Kean discusses her article about David Grusch. This program is arguably the best release of UFO material that the New York Times has done in years. There was however no mention of the de facto government and corporate policy of ridicule and denial based on the concerns of ruling elites that UAP threaten their power.
And there is no mention of countless individuals and small numbers of groups that describe contact and communication with the non-human intelligences associated with flying saucers. As Leslie Kane points out at the end, Congress will have to make important decisions about investigating David Grusch’s claims.
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